I wrote this post on a whim the other day as part of dealing with some negative feedback. As you know, sometimes writing out or talking through things can be very therapeutic and cathartic (I love that word!). So take this with a grain of salt as it was really just thoughts in my head flowing out onto the page.
Over the past few years, as we have been writing for the blog and doing our videos, I have encountered slight resistance to our work. I say “work” but this is a hobby and what we do is far from professional level. We are gamers at heart who simply like playing and talking about wargames. All kinds of wargames mind you and not just a certain type of niche wargames. We play hex and counter, Card Driven Games, Eurotrash, block wargames, card wargames and lots of others. In fact, we really have tried to build our experience pool with games and will generally try anything at least once. I am 51 and was born in 1973. In my family setting, we played games but mostly I was brought up on RPG’s like Dungeons & Dragons and other games but also with games like Axis & Allies. I feel cheated somehow because I didn’t have a father who loved wargames. My dad, God rest his soul, is a veteran and was enlisted in the Air Force for 7 years during the Korean War era where he worked as a machinist in an aircraft maintenance crew making and repairing parts for those planes. He never saw action nor was he ever stationed overseas. In fact, he hated to fly! He didn’t come home after work and play wargames with me like the classics from Avalon Hill. I wish that he had but sometimes you don’t miss what you don’t really know and I grew up just fine on the games that I was playing.

Fast forward to 2016, where Alexander and I, along with another friend Tim, decided to start a blog where we would talk about games. We started out talking about all type of games but Alexander and I both gravitated toward wargames and Tim lost interest and decided to move on. We still actually play games once in a while with Tim and our old group but those games are not wargames. I remember those times with great fondness as we were navigating the world of wargames. We started with some whoppers to be sure, with some of our first games being Empire of the Sun from GMT Games, Labyrinth from GMT Games and Churchill from GMT Games. But, with each new game we played, our desire to play more and discover more and learn more grew. We quickly got into tactical wargames such as Combat Commander, Old School Tactical, Conflict of Heroes to name a few and then expanded into larger more traditional hex and counter wargames. I still remember when we played At Any Cost from GMT Games, my mind was burning as we navigated the fairly complex and deep combat system. But all of that drove us to learn more and play more. We love wargaming.
But the thing that has always held us back has been the lack of a deep and abiding experience pool with more classic wargames. We just didn’t play them when we were kids like so many other wargamers did. And I truly apologize to you, our readers and viewers, for that fact. It has hampered our approach as well as our ability to properly compare classic systems to more modern takes on wargames. We are often asked the following questions, or some version of: How does this compare to the classic _______ (fill in the blank)? Does the activation mechanic work the same? Which do you prefer, this or that? I actually cringe when we are asked those questions because I honestly feel a sense of pain when I cannot answer them. That is something that we have tried desperately to correct by playing many of these classic games. We have explored several series from the likes of Multi-Man Publishing such as the Standard Combat Series, Battalion Combat Series, Operational Combat Series, etc. We have also played lots of great GMT Games series like the ’40X Series designed by Mark Simonitch. But still there are many that we have not got around to playing.
At this point in the post, you might be asking yourself what is the point here? Well, the point that I am trying to get out there for discussion is this. Even in the light of this admitted lack of deeper experience on our part, and the fact that we maybe didn’t grow up on some of the classics, I am trying to figure out why we get the occasional really negative comments about our thoughts, opinions and takes on wargames? Without being truly specific, and without giving away any names, I will give you a few examples.
Last year, we played the new Enemy Action: Kharkov from Compass Games. This is an established and beloved system designed by the great John Butterfield. I have played many games designed by John and absolutely adore his D-Day at Series form Decision Games as I have played Tarawa and Iwo Jima and also really enjoyed RAF: The Battle of Britain 1940 from Decision Games. In our comments on the game, we both stated that we felt that the game is more suited to a solitaire experience due to its combat system where there are a lot of chits drawn to represent results from combat based on several factors including terrain, special events, unit makeup, etc. This process seemed burdensome and very slow for a 2-player game as we both felt that it was more suited as a solitaire game.
Man, after those posts went up, I got a few negative comments from various readers who felt many things about those comments. That I wasn’t a “real wargamer”, the gap between older grognards and the newer “wargamers” and my favorite that “John Butterfield simply deserves a better review…”

All because I didn’t love the game. Keep in mind that I was generally complimentary of the game and the activation system. But, the fact that I didn’t bow down in obeisance to a great designer and his game was I think the point that he was really trying to make. Oh and that I am not a wargamer.
Here is another more recent example as this past weekend I shared our Disappointing Wargames video that was shot in our car (we have this car video thing) on our way to the World Boardgaming Championships last July. We highlighted about 10 wargames that just didn’t hit with us when we played them. These included some lesser known titles, such as Free at Last! from The Dietz Foundation, Dawn of Battle from Worthington Publishing, as well as some more venerable and well liked titles such as MBT from GMT Games. Well, these comments hit another wargamer pretty hard and we got the following.


I think that my favorite comment was that he called us streamers. What does that even mean? We shoot videos and post them on YouTube. We don’t do live streams very often if at all. We also played the game he is referencing with just the basic rules to get a feeling for the system and whether it was a fit for us. And you know what, it wasn’t! I am not an expert on wargames. Never have claimed to be. Never even have thought I am. In fact, I suffer from major Imposter Syndrome every time we do these videos and reviews. I ask myself all the time. Who cares about my opinion or thoughts? What makes me qualified to even comment? Do I really know what I am talking about? But, we have played a lot of games and have started to understand some things about what we like and what works for us. We also have started to see where games fail more often than not in their clarity of rules, overuse of chrome, lack of proper and well laid out player aids, etc.
And this got me thinking. Thinking about why there is so much of this type of agitated and defensive response from wargamers when my comments and views don’t align with theirs. It is just odd. But, as I was thinking, it hit me. Wargamers are protective. They are protective of their history, or at least their view or opinion about that history. Protective of the hobby that they love, because they don’t want it to go away or change. And they feel ownership of the genre. They also are extremely nostalgic and sometimes think back to their younger years with great fondness as they learned their first Avalon Hill wargame classic. They played those games till the counters had the ink rubbed off. And they loved those games. But, sometimes memory fades and we begin to inject a more romantic or glossed over view of a subject or experience in our past. This leads to a heightened sensitivity to any comments or thoughts that put that in jeopardy. And I do get it. We all get defensive from time to time about any number of things. But, we all need to learn to better deal with those feelings and discuss them in a more rationale and thoughtful manner. Name calling, defamatory comments and discounting others opinions are not means of communication. They are childish. And do not have a place in any discussion. Period. I just wish that we would learn to disagree better. Maybe that we cannot disagree civilly is the reason that we have wars in our history. And yes, I see the irony that we then play those wars out on the table without understanding the heart of the disagreement. There are not enough wargamers as is and we need to embrace each other. I love to disagree and to discuss the reasons why you are wrong. That is what we do. That is what I partially do in my career. That is what I do as a parent a lot of the times. But the difference is that I always have a goal of maintaining a relationship with those I am having a disagreement with and am interested in trying to understand their side and clearly explain myself in the process.
Don’t get me wrong. I have had moments that I am not proud of in arguments. I am married. And have been for 28 years. We argue from time to time about things. And sometimes we lose our cool, I lose my cool. But, at the end of the day, we work it out, maintain our relationship, I end up apologizing because I am an apologizer and the marriage goes on. I want that to be the case here in wargaming as well. I want to be able to share my thoughts, with some well organized and reasoned out reasons, and be able to have a civil conversation without being belittled. Or told that I am not a wargamer. Or not the correct type of wargamer. Is that too much to ask?

I am not sure that is what I thought this post would turn into but there it is. If we all walk away from this post with a better view on disagreeing over wargames, I will have accomplished what I set out to do here. But, I will continue doing what we do, sharing our thoughts and opinions out there and having civil discussions with all of you.
Please let me know your thoughts on this topic.
-Grant

Hello,
I find your videos and blog to be very good and I am an old war gamer and have more micro games and Avalon Hill classics than you can imagine. You both received some rebooted Steve Jackson games and in your unboxing you both had no idea how in 1980 one page bulge, Awful Green things from outer space and others were huge games 40 years ago! It was very nice to see you both dive into these classics and look them over.
I did a review on my war game channel about reviews and in both board war games and miniature war game books more and more people are running reviews on their YouTube channels. As a game designer myself I will get negative and positive reviews and to be honest more negative than positives but I just keep plugging along. Dennis Bishop a Great War game designer and friend who helped with Horns of the Buffalo and last away before it was published had this to say about reviews. Don’t take reviews to heart try to fix mistakes nothing is perfect but don’t let the reviews get you down or you will stop creating games.
I once had a game struggle for New France reviewed by Richard Berg right before his passing and I was scared to death to open the email and read it …I was amazed he gave it a very good review and from Mr. Berg that was not always the case.
You both do a great job and help the hobby so much one thing I wish both miniature and board warmers would consider it is only a GAME and if there is an issue move in fix change it etc..Life is Too Short!
I would like to see more of your intern in the videos..inside joke.
Bill Molyneaux
BMG Bill Molyneaux Games
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Thanks Bill.
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Keep up the good work as you and Alexander are responsible for renewing my interest in war games. They compliment my WW2 research, trips to the ETO and adult education presentations. Since I discovered your web site I have purchased close 100 games! Ridiculous I know but it has been a great joy for me during my last six years as a care taker for my wife where our travel was curtailed. Your enthusiasm and professionalism are greatly appreciated! Bill C
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Thanks Bill. Good to hear. Blessings to you and your wife.
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I was the one making the observation that you simply dismissed Panzer because you only played with the Basic rules and stumbled over the “simple” inititative phase.
The PROBLEM is not that you are not old grognards. The problem I see is that you guys need to churn out reviews at an INSANE rate (grtz for even trying it) BUT that comes at a cost of QUALITY in the review department sometimes.
So you played the game for a few hours at about 20% of the rules of that simulation without even trying to get to the advanced simulation mechanics.
That was my remark about the Jim Day Panzer system which I played HUNDREDS of hours on board, on VASSAL and with adapted miniatures terrain (4cm per hex).
Talking about Jim Day, I come to my second remark.
I guess (just a guess) your reviews are a bit hampered by the fact you have much closer relations towards some designers than others.
It is not that better friends make better simulations.
At least that is the impression I get over the years.
So it is not a question about counters/hexes or euro wargames or old grognards or card wargames (I love Up Front) or old skool.
It is ALL about informing players about new and old games in a more profound and in depth manner.
Some of your reviews are very deep AND thorough! GRTZ for that… But some are very shallow in my view and just done after playing a couple of hours with 20% of the rules read (in the case of Panzer for example).
Sorry if that remark is somewhat hurting you, BUT it is an overall impression I get from many other video reviewers these days.
TOO MANY games, too little time …
My advice: if you are not really interested in a game to play it in full dept avoid making general comments. And a boring car ride is not exactly helping …😎😜
Keep up the good work. But do not touch on great games we play for hundreds of hours ourselves. We know our games sometimes better than you, you know.
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Thanks Ben. Maybe next time I will call you before we decide to play any of your “great” games.
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Ben said: “do not touch on great games we play for hundreds of hours ourselves. We know our games sometimes better than you, you know.”
Who are you to tell someone else what and how they can or cannot interact with and comment on? Grant and Alexander are not professional reviewers and do not hold themselves out to be such. I very much enjoy their content, especially since they come up with a variety of ways to discuss their hobby and present to us their experiences with various games. Covering a game in a video called Disappointing Wargames with a discussion of their experience is just that, *their* experience. They are not saying nobody would or should enjoy that particular game. Why do you take it so personal that they didn’t like a game that you happen to love and spend hundreds of hours on? Their opinion should not take away from your enjoyment of the game in question.
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I’ll make this very short. Continue to do what you like to do!
We all have our own opinions, nobody owns the truth. Opinions are undisputably subjective and personal. Point.
Why do I watch youtube channels and listen to podcasts? I like to see things (not only wargames) from a different angle, not to be confirmed in my own view. Confirmation bias not (always) my thing.
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True dat. Thanks Yves.
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Hello! Your channel and blog are amazing. I’m in the same boat and didn’t play the Avalon Hill games. I recently just got into wargames. So your thoughts and ideas vibe well with me. You show fun games and I love learning along with you all. Keep it up.
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I’m glad. Welcome to the fantastic hobby we all enjoy.
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It’s like you said “it’s only a game”! I used to play the old AH games and they were a beast to get the rules down. No YouTube and no BGG. You had to send a self addressed letter for any questions! Ha ha. Now at least we have Al Gores wonderful invention the internet to get instant results. That’s why we have so many opinions on games. I look at reviews as they are “just that person’s opinion”. No more no less. I read or watch many game reviews/opinions when looking at games. Just because you find fault doesn’t mean I will and visa versa.
keep up the great work fellows. Remember it’s just a job not an adventure. Or maybe the other way around. What’s your opinion?
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I can’t have imagined that. We have played a few older games and the biggest noticed difference is the lack of clarity in rules.
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I love watching your videos and have purchased many games after watching your vids , i was going to buy enemy action Ardennes , but decided against due to cost and your video of the second game . Its great you do these videos and keep on doing them
Regards Tony
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Thanks Tony. No plans to stop.
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with an inability to process negative emotions among a lot of boys and men, and you get this outpouring of anger and frustration at what, ultimately, is just a person who doesn’t like a thing you like. That’s all it is. When viewed through that lens, attacking another human being for not sharing your affection for a particular thing is something that should make more of us self-reflect, but often doesn’t.
Personally, I appreciate that you two rarely review something you don’t like, and really just focus on what you do enjoy about a game. You highlight some difficult or odd mechanisms or design choices, and then mostly discuss the things you love. That’s how I prefer to interact with hobbies: tell me the basics and what you liked, warn me what I might not like, and otherwise leave me to figure out on my own if a thing is for me or not. Anyone responding to that with condescending or malicious comments is simply showing the world they have some serious work to do on their own personality.
I also feel like perhaps more fans of anything should acknowledge that what they may want to put hundreds of hours into, may for someone else be something they only engage in a little. e.g. a game I may play every month, or every week, someone else may only play once a year, or less. It may be a fine game, but if it only rewards heavy investment–of time and money–it will, by definition, not be for everyone. And that’s what a review actually is: here is what we think of this based on how we interact, here is what you may or may not like. Telling people honestly that based on your level of investment you did not see the return to what you wanted, is just giving them useful information. What they do with that is up to them. No one should be expected to pour the same level of time and money into every single system they review as the most fervent of fans of that system do.
In short, keep it up, you both do great work, and remember that a lot of people tie their identity and enjoyment a bit too much into the things they like; it isn’t about you, it’s all on them. Doesn’t make it any easier to read what feels like unnecessary criticism, but it’s sometimes helpful to remember.
We’re supposed to do all of this for fun, anything else is a genuine waste of time.
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Very well put. I wish I could have liked this comment twice.
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Haters are always going to hate. Just keep doing what you do. Many people value hearing your gaming opinions.
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Thank you. I’m glad to hear that.
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Grant, I watch many of the videos you and Alex put out in no small part because you are “regular joes” who, though relatively new to the hobby, are enthusiastic and have dived deep into many different pools in the wide world of wargaming. You don’t profess to be experts, you understand the limits of your experiences, and just want to share with others of like mind.
Keep doing this.
You two have always been straightforward with your audience and you don’t owe them any more than the authenticity you already bring.
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Thanks Scott. Appreciate that.
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That the person who provided the feedback read this and self-disclosed is admirable enough. He didn’t have to. That he further defended himself through a personal slight about the nature of your review process is sadly more evidence for the article. Better to have said, “I’m sorry my argument was pointed” and rather offer a kind suggestion that there is a better game in there if you’re interested instead of pot-spotting your approach. I’m probably sounding argumentative myself now. I miss civility. I’ve missed for a long time. I’m professionally employed to manage it and it’s lacking these days.
Alexander did a review of a holy grail game (kind of) – the first ASL Starter Kit. Squad Leader before and ASL after are genuinely classic but it’s fine not to like them. Look, there’s plenty of Shakespeare that doesn’t resonate with me. Classics are not to be enjoyed mandatorily. Nor are games. If the basic game isn’t compelling, that’s ok. As long as you’re clear about the depth you went, it’s honest. I don’t keep eating food I don’t like hoping to find a taste later I enjoy. There are plenty of games that don’t suit me that others can’t play enough.
Variety is the spice of life and with variety comes diversity. Wargames are about conflict. But wargamers need not be.
Keep up the good work. You efforts bring me joy and have helped inform my own game interests. Very much appreciated.
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Glad to hear and thanks. We do this to spread our love of the hobby. That’s it.
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Very good and needed article; really like the thought process. One thing (which I also do professionally) is differentiation between “my opinion” and “objective truth”. In your materials you guys clear say: this is what I think, this is what I like, for me this works / this does not. This is subjective to the bone and…. so personal that it cannot be denied.
Unfortunately, some people are so focused on their way of thinking that they take feelings, experiences and opinions of other as and attempt to convey “objective truth”; and as such – they feel attacked! But hey, if I say I do not like something, if something did not click for me – this is it, and whether somebody likes it or not, this is my feeling.
Keep up good work, share your personal experiences, what you like, what works for you – this is the way to go!
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Grant, I’ve heard you talk about some of the extreme feedback you receive before and I’m sorry. I played my first wargame as a teenager in 1976 (SPI’s Red Star/White Star). I do not feel the fact that you may not have played games from the 1970s/80s as being an issue or a limitation. Or that you become a “Wargame Historian.” I do often suggest that people play older games to understand how so many of the current game mechanics developed. But I do not believe that to be necessary.
I love your channel, I enjoy your and Alexander’s takes on games and interviews. As far as disagreeing, I wish that people could express themselves in an intelligent manner. The only requirement I have for any channel is for the reviews to provide a valid rationale for your viewpoints. And you both always do that.
I’m glad that you chose to play games and do this channel. I’m always happy when I get a notice that you have posted a new video. So, please, remember that most of us love what you do.
Nick Stasnopolis
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Thanks Nick. People like you are why we do this.
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Gents, love the work you do.
You guys are a big part of the glue that keeps our community together, and I thank you for that! While I can’t watch every video (but I read ALL your text postings) the content you guys pump out is great for me personally and I believe good for wargaming as a whole.
Keep up the good work!
Tim
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Thanks so much.
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It’s the internet. Always seems to be a % just waiting to say you are doing something wrong.
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Correct. I think the general anonymity gives people license to be rude where normally they problem wouldn’t be.
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While I don’t understand why others cannot tolerate seeing their sacred cows (slightly) sacrificed by a hobby blogger, I think we all need to remind ourselves that—though vocal—they do not reflect the greater part of the hobby. While we invite conversation, all too often the disruptors proceed to lobby for their views from a self-aggrandized position by talking down to others. The “fact” you came to wargaming later in your life and the “fact” you haven’t experienced the “classic” games is irrelevant. Those that speak out to laud over you and reinforce any (misplaced) imposter syndrome are exactly the types that don’t deserve even a courtesy engagement.
Like you, I have opinions on wargames and war games. I happen to be an PANZER/MBT fan but I also recognize that the game system is not for everyone. Instead of criticizing others I wish the disruptor had instead constructively offered up a contrary opinion and encouraged you to keep exploring the Advanced Game system. Such an approach might not change your opinion, but more importantly it would communicate the love and appreciation of a fan and encourage further play in the hobby vice chilling the conversation.
I would, however, challenge you to reconsider your sweeping statement that, “Wargamers are protective.” Certainly SOME wargamers are but I would argue that most are not. While there is certainly a (vocal?) segment that are hard-core in their beliefs and anchored to the past, I would contend that many more welcome the exploration of both play and history the hobby offers and seek more than simply “classic” hex & counter. wargames.
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I think I made some pretty broad statements in this one and to agree that most wargamers are not necessarily those things. Thanks for the comment.
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I enjoyed so much your video but it is nothing compared with this (& fun) blog reflection ! Great !!!
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Thanks. Glad you liked it.
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Thanks. I really do enjoy writing.
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I’ve got to admit, I understand the imposter syndrome. I’m in my mid twenties and found the hobby only two or three years ago. You guys were the first people I stumbled upon when I was looking into The Dark Summer, which was one of my first two wargames.
Since then I’ve been playing wargames solo, only because there aren’t people in my area (that I’m aware of) that also play wargames. I’ve had people online say some less than kind things about my choice. But hey, their opinion is theirs, and that’s fine. Echoing what you said, I wish people could just be okay on not agreeing.
That being said, it seems like the majority of the wargaming community is welcoming to newcomers.
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I do agree that the majority is pretty open and welcoming.
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Like most things in life, you usually just hear from the disgruntled or angry. I love your stuff, but never comment. My bad. Don’t sweat it, you two do a terrific job. Sorry it has taken me so long to say thank you and great work.
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No worries. Not asking people to comment and I am also not ready to jump off a ledge or stop what we do. Thank you.
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Grant and Alexander, keep up the good work, and don’t let the close-minded pinheads get you down. I’m a grognard and I have a handful of favorite old games, and I recognize they have flaws (and I like knowing what they are). The “perfect” wargame has not yet been published, and probably never will be because designers have to make compromises and too many things can go wrong in production. Problems can creep into games even after multiple editions and reprintings. Its the human condition.
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Good points and thanks for the support!
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The Scottish comedian Billy Connolly once said in an interview something that really made me think about the way I live life it was (paraphrasing) ” Just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean others cant find it incredibly satisfying” which of course also means not everyone likes what you like. It really is true in so many aspects of life, there are games for everyone and games people don’t like. In my gaming group some of my favorite games are despised by others so we just play the games we all enjoy. So keep up the good work, these are your opinions and as long as you aren’t denigrating others your views on the games you like to play are yours
[On the great Panzer/MBT controversy I love the system but actually agree with you as the Basic game is really a bit of a joke , and as your review was on the basic game I have to agree, its not a Basic game its really step one in learning the actual rules. This is very different from some games where the basic game is perfectly good and you can just stick with that]
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Thanks for the comment. I know we only tried the basic game but had that gone better we would have dove into the advanced options. Alas it wasn’t meant to be.
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Please, keep on going like up to now. You do not want to write the Bible, nor the Reference Treatise of Wargaming everybody has to follow. You are providing a review based on your tastes that maybe, or may not, match the one of the reader. That’s all. Nothing more, nothing less. Nobody has to agree with your opinion. But neither have you.
Keep on going!
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Great post, Grant.
You know that I share your Imposter Syndrome, as you’ve had to talk me down from quitting blogging a couple of times!
Ok, it was just the Justin Timberlake side-eye gif, but it still felt like talking me down from the ledge.
I think I have had one or two negative comments posted on my blog in 7 years, mainly because I don’t really say anything controversial.
The fact that you sometimes get them just means that you’re actually doing something substantial and it’s actually a good sign! Though it is annoying to have to deal with them.
Keep up the good work. You have a lot more fans (tons more) than you do detractors.
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Thanks for the comment Dave. I agree with you and I deal with them fairly well. Sometimes it hits a different way and I start to ask myself why I am doing this. But, I remember the Justin Timberlake (Mr. JT) side eye GIF and I quickly come back to reality.
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So you use the gif on yourself too! 🙂 That’s awesome.
I know if I ever start doubting myself, I just need to talk to you.
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Grant, I was very saddened to read your latest email….I cannot fathom why people can be so ignorant and condescending. Clearly you and Alex enjoy what you do and that enthusiasm is evident in each video or comment you post, and it is infectious. I, for one, have bought or passed on many games based on your reviews and comments and as a long time, veteran wargamer, I don’t give a nano second of thought as to whether you are an old school gamer or not…it’s about the game. Usually around New Year, people make resolutions and often it is ‘to be a better person’. I sum those thoughts more succinctly, ‘don’t be an asshole’. So, to those who are, ignore them….please. You guys are an asset to the hobby and don’t let the few nay sayers drown out the majority of us who are fans.
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I”m an old wargamer. Been playing wargames since the mid-70’s…started out on Luftwaffe and PanzerBlitz. Keep doing what you are doing! I enjoy your website and your blog and your game play. I enjoy you guys showing what’s new in the hobby and your ‘take on it’, mostly because I don’t have the time to do that. I ALWAYS read your upcoming wargame article. I don’t have to agree with everything you say, but I don’t expect people to agree with everything I say…(I’ve been married almost 34 years Grant, so I empathize). LOL ’Keep on, keeping on’!
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Hey, loved this post. I also particularly liked what Indiana Justice had to say. As an older person who spent most of a lifetime adrift from any gaming community I find it very hard to deal with jaded veterans especially when I am still trying to catch up on games I would have liked to even imagine learning when I was 14. To engage with the hobby in the open way Alexander and yourself do is quite pleasant to experience. I marvel at your prodigious sampling of available content particularly when I consider that my mind is often too tired to play once I have finished administering the needs of my collection and other hobby related tasks:) On the point about defensiveness I wonder if perhaps it is more a kind of rational certainty. I mean it’s like Ben said; he’d prefer you to be a different channel. I’ve never been able to deal with that kind of certainty from people telling me that I am not doing it right so it’s a privilege to read people talking about improving communication as a result of their experiences
All the best.
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It is a bizarre dichotomy that we as humans ‘root for the underdog’, but then love to tear something down when it gets ‘too big/popular/good. That’s perhaps a broad observation in the wargaming hobby, but it seems to be married to the grizzled ‘I was there when’ (which smacks more of the hipster philosophy, who ‘discovered the best bands before they sold out, man.’)
I see a constant narrative through many of these responses: it is natural for us to protect our own loves (and biases)- whenever and however those particular game titles brought you into the hobby.
Some people will not appreciate the amount of effort content creation takes, and will wave it off as ‘searching for clicks’. For some, yes. For most, it is a true labor of love to devote such energies to the hobbies we enjoy and want to share.
Does everyone have to share the same enthusiasm for what I do? Nope, not at all. *Should* everyone recognize that opinions and your methodologies differ from their own? Yes, they should.
I’m glad you might like a thing I don’t. My own opinions should never attempt to negate your positivity toward it. Even if it comes from a place of high-minded attempts to ‘correct’.
Keep up the great work- I, like others, appreciate the constructive nature you both bring to the hobby.
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Thanks Patrick. Good points and advice.
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I’m sorry you got such negative feedback from some people, but I appreciate your and Alexander’s reviews very much, Grant, and I hope you guys keep doing them!
Signed,
A Player of Avalon Hill Wargames Since 1984
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At least some of it is nostalgia. Russian Campaign is a good example. I grew up playing that game, and it was strictly a 6 out of 10 game. Suddenly in 2024 everyone things is 10/10. Some of it is hype. You’ll get fanboies (and Butterfield has them) who can’t take any criticism. I like Butterfield games, but Enemy Action seldom makes the table. Simonitch is better.
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There are people that take any criticism of a game they love as a criticism of themselves. I don’t know how you can avoid that, nor should you be worried about it. As for dealing with it, “delete” seems to work well.
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Guys, you know me…. I’ve been playing wargames for almost 45 years and designing for over 30.
If I paid any more than even the scantiest attention to these gatekeeping anal-retentive obsessives subsisting on nostalgia fumes, these poster children for neoteny, I would probably have the same feelings of inadequacy or “imposter syndrome” you express, and dial it back or quit altogether, letting Old Yeller win again.
But I don’t.
The Internet has been at once the saviour and the bane of this hobby.
And while praise and interest are great and motivating things, I suspect that I would still be doing what I’m doing even if there were no game publishing industry to comment on and my medium was reduced to shirt cardboard and Hi-Liter markers… hm, come to think of it that is how I started.
“The dogs may bark, but the caravan moves on.”
Brian
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Thanks Brian. I am just really trying to point out unnecessary negativity. I try not to let effect my or my mood and it doesn’t dampen my interest or enthusiasm for wargames. Just sometimes takes me aback.
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Keep on keeping on Grant.
Noli illegitimi carborundum, though it’s more of a pee-in-your-cornflakes situation.
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My wife and I (56/60 respectively) love your reviews, Grant. In point of fact, we watched your solo play of ‘Hapsburg Eclipse’ last week before cracking open the game and felt that your play through was very informative and helpful.
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If both you and Alexander like a game, it can often be the deciding factor if we were on the fence about purchasing it.
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In the end, wargames are supposed to be about a few hours of fun with people you enjoy spending time with, and if you can expand your historical knowledge at the same time, it’s that much better, hence the reason we choose wargames over fantasy games, as a rule.
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Your enthusiasm and honesty are infectious. Don’t let the ‘know-it-alls’ get you down.
All the best.
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Great story and thanks for sharing Scott. I’m glad you found some usefulness for the playthrough. Great game isn’t it? Hard as hell though. Still haven’t won it.
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You know, I love the Enemy Action series but my experience is all solo. The chit pull experience is a tense, nail-biting affair for me, but your criticism is fair since it is slower than other methods of resolving combat. Was I disappointed that you didn’t love it as much as I did…yeah, a little. I think a part of me was hoping to see a 2P video in your future. But I also understand that tastes differ and your opinion doesn’t invalidate my opinion (and vice versa).
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100%. The system is interesting and has a lot going for it. I just didn’t necessarily like it in 2-player mode.
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In a way its a reflection of our society today. People have forgotten that’s it’s okay to disagree about something. Doesn’t mean you are stupid or racist or whatever, just means we disagree. I’ve not agreed with one or two of your reviews but does it mean I think you are stupid, no, just means we like different things. TPA reviews are often a deciding factor on whether I purchase something any more. Thanks for all that y’all do for the hobby. You two got me back into board wargaming and I’ll be forever grateful though my checking account may disagree. LOL
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Thanks Mark. Glad you are along for the ride.
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First and most important thank you to you and Alexander for your many wonderful reviews. I may not always agree, but, so what. I cut my wargaming teeth on Risk, Stratetgo and the Milton Bradley classics. My conversion came with the discovery of Chancellorsville by Avalon Hill. From there it was more AH then SPI, GDW, etc. I look back on those games with some nostalgia, mainly from the pleasure of playing them. But comparing them to the games today, we are now light years ahead. Much greater graphics on both counters and maps, move innovative systems, clearer rules. So you didn’t really miss much. Try playing Panzer Group Guderian compared to Smolensk, PGG is fun, but Smolensk is far superior.
I owe you another thanks, I had played Demyansk Pocket and couple of times and was not really impressed, and agreed on a review by The Big Board. When you reviewed it I pulled it out and played again, and really enjoyed it , so thanks.
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I really liked that game and glad you gave it another try. Bravo!
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Sir,
What can I say that the people above did not? There are always going to be those who are out to “flame” anyone on the internet. Just because you don’t agree doesn’t mean the other person’s opinion is wrong, or that you can’t disagree politely. I’ll add this though, I am, like some above, an old grognard who grew on old AH and SPI, with Panzerblitz being a favorite. But, I think we are in the golden age of wargames and boardgames in general. Never have there been so many different games out there. So, having the experience of playing the old AH classis is less relevant now because there are so many other games out there for comparison. I love Panzerblitz, and if this were 1990, I’d want to know how a new game of the same type compared to Panzerblitz. But, with so many games out in existence, there are more recent and relevant comparisons to make. And as much as I love Panzerblitz, I’ve found some recent games to be better, or at least different enough to be fun.
Keep at it!
Chris
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Thanks Chris. Appreciate those comments.
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Keep doing what you’re doing. Take a break if you need to, burnout is also a real thing. Or focus on what you want to accomplish, like your 2024 Shelf of Shame Dust Off, instead of the pressure of everything new. The videos and blog posts that the Player’s Aid produce are fantastic. There is a reason you guys were nominated for and won so many CSR awards. You got me back into the hobby, watching videos at home during the pandemic. It may be a small hobby, but know that you bring joy to many of us.
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Thanks Jason. And that is why we do it. We love it, get great enjoyment out of doing it and also love sharing with others.
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Write what you’d like to read.
My reviews have caused a noted publisher to send a “you’ll never work in this town again” letter, a gamer to threaten to travel to Australia and hunt me down, a hundred posters to write a thousand demeaning posts, at least one publisher / designer to refuse to sell me product, and a number of others to ban me from their forums.
If the internet has taught us anything, it’s that people can believe anything. Consensus is impossible, and civil debate is a historic relic. If you are going to comment, people will comment back. And some people are dicks.
For what it’s worth, my view on wargamers is not complimentary. They tell themselves they are playing these games for the history, but that’s a fiction. They are playing toy soldiers, and using history as a figleaf of respectability. So a criticism of a game’s history is seen as a criticism of the gamer.
Anyway, I don’t watch your stuff, but imposter syndrome is a nonsense. As William Goldman put it about a Hollywood, nobody knows anything. So to return to the top, write what you want to read. Ain’t nobody’s business but your own.
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Good evening,
It bothers me that you feel defensive about your thoughts and opinions. I have been gaming since the late ’70s and still do not have the broad experiences you talk about in the gaming realm. I focus on what I like and what I have time to play, I learn about new stuff from people like you who take the time to produce a nice video.
Keep up the good work, let haters be haters, they have some other problems to work out….
Craig
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Please keep doing what you’re doing! Anyone who puts themselves out there is going to be criticized and sometimes personally attacked. That’s just how some people behave. Try your best to focus on the 99 percent of people who appreciate what you do!
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I personally prefer that you offer more critiques. I enjoy just listening to you both chat about wargames, but your videos also are useful to both discover new games and to help decide if I want to buy a particular game. I of course don’t always agree with your opinions, but I filter them to my tastes, just like I might do with a movie review. My feeling was that you used to almost exclusively say nice things about games; the fact that you’re willing to offer criticisms actually lends more weight to your praise. At least from my perspective.
For what it’s worth, and I don’t know that it makes it any easier for you to deal with the sensitivity, I don’t think this problem is particular to wargaming. Some people get just as upset at a book/movie/music/theater review that they don’t agree with. Go figure.
You can’t please all the people all the time. But I think you’re pleasing most of the wargamers most of the time, so: Good job and thanks for all the content!
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If you want to be popular you’m picked the wrong business. There’s always folks telling you what you should or shouldn’t do. Take no notice. (He said telling them what they should or shouldn’t do).
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Not sure I want to be popular just wanted to remind folks about civility. That is really the point. Thank you.
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Great article Grant! You guys are doing a great job. I come back to watch for a reason. Relatable, enjoyable, informative are adjectives that come to mind. And the continued success of the channel supports most others probably feel similar. I for one am grateful you guys do what you do.
It’s unfortunate that some can’t handle their emotions well. I’m no psychologist but I feel some can’t handle the pain and emotion they feel when your opinions don’t match theirs. So they react like it’s a personal affront to their beliefs. To a degree there is a stardom factor about you guys, where people respect and look up to you guys. The way I process it is like when a coach might tell an athlete after a tryout that he’s not ready yet, and this athlete is crushed because they are putting perhaps all this time and effort into this sport they really enjoy. It’s painful. Some can take it with a grain of salt and push on, because it’s just one opinion at the end of the day. And for some they become bitter and resentful. I think it’s important for everyone to remember you guys preface so many videos that it’s your opinion, your take based on your experiences. It’s neither of yours profession to do this. Keep on going gents because I’m here for it!
Also, I don’t know why it feels weird that I’m like the third person named Bill to respond, haha.
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Bill is a good solid name for a wagamer! Thanks for the comments.
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Better yet, William the 3rd. Now that’s a good war name! In hindsight my analogy was a little off target but o well. Never was great at philosophizing, but I stand by the rest.
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Grant and Alexander though are probably 2 of the best wargamer names don’t you agree?
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haha, truth. Legendary.
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Grant, for a fun reality check I refer you back to last September when Alexander made you guess 10 of your most-loved games by reading a one star BGG review for each one. A very entertaining video, at least for Alexander and the viewers!
Your immediate reactions were almost all along the lines of “they’re idiots” and “I wanna hunt them down”. The Fire in the Lake review even prompted an edited-out middle finger and a subsequent apology!
To your credit, you guys talked about why you and the nay-sayers might have had such different opinions, and ended with “don’t troll people and don’t be a jerk”. Bravo.
So yeah, we can get passionate about this hobby!
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Touché sir!
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Grant,
I have and continue to enjoy your content. Thank you for your support of our hobby, and the time you take to make this happen. I know exactly what you mean.
Joe F.
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Hello Grant,
I have been following you guys for a few years now; I echo all the supportive comments. You guys are outstanding evangelists for this great hobby of ours and an asset to its community.
In reading this post, I do want to offer a suggestion and one piece of advice. The suggestion is partly related to what I think the original poster was trying to express in his response. There are some games that are touchstones and classics that were in-fact designed around the “Full game” or “Campaign Game;” for example, time-approachable classics like The Russian Campaign and Ardennes 44. As a result, you do need to play the “full game” to understand the genius behind those designs and their impact on our hobby. So, my suggestion is that if you can only manage a scenario and not the full game when playing such titles, put that in your “Initial Impressions” box that you guys do, and return to it when you can play the full game, and then do a review. If you don’t think you will ever have the time or interest, then perhaps it’s best to avoid such games altogether as it relates to your content. But I do hope you guys play the full game in such cases, as I know many of us would be interested in hearing your thoughts. I’m also sure you guys will learn a lot and have a greater appreciation for those games, and their place in our hobby.
My advice derives from a concern I have about the effect negative responses may have on your contributions. As a content creator for the hobby, negative reviews or honest concerns about a game (not the ax-grinding I have seen in certain forums) are important for our community and you shouldn’t be dissuaded by them. You do need to expect and be prepared for some blowback from a negative review. Yes, we hope it’s polite, but there will be times it won’t be or comes off the wrong way. So, my advice is that in such instances keep in-mind all of the positive support you see here, read and learn what you can from those negative comments (if anything), and then move-on. I always remember something a well-regarded designer / principal mentioned to me when I was overly concerned about comments from someone on a game I assisted with – he said, and I’m paraphrasing “Only those that try and do, are in a place to hear such things – those that do nothing, hear nothing”.
All the best to you guys and keep up the good work.
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Hi Grant,
Just wanted to say I greatly enjoy what you and Alexander do. You guys come across as very genuine and kind in your videos, and make wargaming feel more welcome to everyone. I always come away with just a plain ‘ole good feeling from watching your videos…just regular guys talking about games. Thanks for that! I appreciate your open-minded approach to different games.
I’m a long-time board gamer but got more into wargames about 4 years ago, in big part thanks to you. Your videos have recommended quite a few different purchases…to my wife’s consternation. I’m trying to rope her into Twilight Struggle right now! We have small children, so time is limited for research and play of these things.
Most recent acquisition: Old School Tactical system. I found it in a round-about way, with Assault: Red Horizon and realizing I love tactical games like that. From there, your videos on OST came to my attention. It’s fantastic in my opinion, and I’d like to say thanks for your videos covering it. I’ve been able to acquire the whole set so far, and just pre-ordered Volume IV which is up on Flying Pig’s website. So is Armageddon War, as a re-print, so I’ve ordered that as well since I wasn’t into the hobby back when it first released and you guys loved it!
Hope you guys keep going strong! I’ll keep watching.
Cheers and all the best,
Nick
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Thanks Nick. Glad you have found the videos useful. My apologies to your wife!
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You and Alexander are enthusiasts for this hobby and are always looking for good games to say nice things about. With that outlook, I think it’s the least anyone can do to approach you with the same positive attitude and good faith – no matter if one agrees with your assessment or not.
By the way, because of your very positive approach, your criticisms carry special weight – we know this is not an off-hand comment of someone who’s never content with any game, but a consideration which was important enough for you to include in the video/article.
For the game in question, it seems to be a matter of mislabelling to me – if something is called the “Basic Game”, then the players can expect it to be a complete gaming experience (as you did and critiqued it on that assumption). If the designer/publisher thought of it as a first step in learning the game, they should have called it a tutorial/learning scenario/etc.!
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Thanks. I appreciate that insight and agree. I thought it was interesting how comments about that have focused on we played the wrong part of the game.
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For my part I mainly read the blog and watch your channel for what I call the “community” aspect. You and Alexander clearly have a lot of fun and I get a little bit of that vicariously watching your videos, especially the monthly debrief. Watching your videos is like catching up with friends and seeing what they’ve been playing. I mention this because of your comments about “imposter syndrome” which I think is a normal feeling to have but I don’t think you guys have ever presented yourselves as wargame experts, whatever the heck that is. I agree with the other poster that you guys are great ambassadors for wargaming as a hobby and all the work you’ve done with the channel has done a ton to bring a lot of new people (including me) into wargaming. For the record I would love to see more car videos about games you didn’t like because that **** was hilarious.
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Grant and Alex. I’m an old time grog of sorts. Been playing since 1977. Avalon Hill Afrika Korps. Squad Leader original, Midway. 3rd Reich. Etc. That said I applaud your post here. People need to understand and take things with a proverbial grain of salt as it were when it comes to commenting on games. At the end of the day. We’re all part of the same of expanding wargaming community. Very best. Neil.
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